Showing posts with label old teams. Show all posts
Showing posts with label old teams. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 29, 2011

1984 Player On New Teams

Here is a list of the players who were on new teams in 1984 and had a card in one of the update sets but have cards in the regular set showing them in their old uniform. Think of it as the anti-traded set.

Several hall-of-famers have cards on this checklist. Joe Morgan and Tony Perez get their last cards showing them as members of the Phillies. Phil Niekro appears on his last Braves card until the 1988 sets, as he had one final token appearance for the Braves in 1987 before retiring. He has been on cards showing him as a Brave going all the way back to 1964, when the team was based in Milwaukee. A pair of Yankees also get their last cards showing them as a member of that team, Rich Gossage and Graig Nettles. Both would be moving on to the Padres in 1984.


Tom Seaver

Tom Seaver gets his last card showing him as a member of the New York Mets. How he became a member of the White Sox in 1984 is a complete mystery to me. Here is how the transaction reads at baseball-reference.com:

January 20, 1984
: Chosen by the Chicago White Sox from the New York Mets as a Free Agent compensation pick.

This must be an old way of compensating for free agents, as I have never seen a player switch teams in this manner. Also, how does this make sense. Isn't this the rich robbing the poor. The White Sox had the best record in the AL in 1983 and the Mets had the worst record in the NL. Maybe this is why players no longer switch teams this way. Maybe somebody can enlighten me on this, as many of my knowledgeable readers point out things to me all the time.

Pete Rose
Hey wait a minute, where is Pete Rose on this list? His last Phillies card is in the 1984 sets and he shows up in the update sets with the Expos. You are correct if you thought that, but I try to fill out the rosters as best I can, and if you remember, 1984 was also the year he came back to the Reds at the tail end of the season, so I will put his Phillies cards in that checklist.

Speaking of Rose...this has to be one of the oddest cards in my collection. I know it isn't that uncommon at all, but it just never looked right seeing him in an Expos uniform. There are a few players like this. I think Steve Carlton is another one. When he bounced around at the end of his career with the White Sox and Indians and a few other teams, he didn't look like he belonged with those teams. Gary Carter on the Giants seems odd. Seeing Kirk Gibson manage the Diamondbacks looks odd now to me. Maybe that will grow on me eventually.

__ TO 685 OT Willie Aikens KCR
__ TO 187 OT Luis Aponte BOS
__ TO 417 OT Mike Armstrong KCR
__ TO 654 OT Bob Bailor NYM
__ TO 40 OT Dusty Baker LAD
__ TO 782 OT Steve Balboni NYY
__ TO 513 OT Dave Beard OAK
__ TO 454 OT Joe Beckwith LAD
__ TO 522 OT Dave Bergman SFG
__ TO 41 OT Tony Bernazard SEA
__ TO 302 OT Barry Bonnell TOR
__ TO 428 OT Fred Breining SFG
__ TO 299 OT John Butcher TEX
__ TO 77 OT Brett Butler ATL
__ TO 552 OT Ray Burris MON
__ TO 482 OT Enos Cabell DET
__ TO 787 OT Bill Campbell CHC
__ TO 769 OT Bill Caudill SEA
__ TO 626 OT Bobby Clark CAL
__ TO 22 OT Bryan Clark SEA
__ TO 358 OT Bob Dernier PHI
__ TO 524 OT Carlos Diaz NYM
__ TO 589 OT Mike Easler PIT
__ TO 737 OT Jim Essian CLE
__ TO 325 OT Darrell Evans SFG
__ TO 342 OT Tim Foli CAL
__ TO 142 OT Rich Gale CIN
__ TO 670 OT Rich Gossage NYY
__ TO 741 OT Wayne Gross OAK
__ TO 348 OT Toby Harrah CLE
__ TO 433 OT Richie Hebner PIT
__ TO 199 OT Willie Hernandez PHI
__ TO 679 OT Art Howe HOU
__ TO 731 OT Lynn Jones DET
__ TO 327 OT Ruppert Jones SDP
__ TO 326 OT Bob Kearney OAK
__ TO 573 OT Dave Kingman NYM
__ TO 311 OT Jerry Koosman CHW
__ TO 223 OT Wayne Krenchicki DET
__ TO 598 OT Rusty Kuntz MIN
__ TO 301 OT Frank LaCorte HOU
__ TO 541 OT Dennis Lamp CHW
__ TO 427 OT Rick Leach DET
__ TO 99 OT Craig Lefferts CHC
__ TO 7 OT Gary Lucas SDP
__ TO 74 OT Jerry Martin KCR
__ TO 267 OT Carmelo Martinez CHC
__ TO 70 OT Gary Matthews PHI
__ TO 281 OT Larry Milbourne NYY
__ TO 210 OT Joe Morgan PHI
__ TO 175 OT Graig Nettles NYY
__ TO 650 OT Phil Niekro ATL
__ TO 184 OT Mike O'Berry CAL
__ TO 312 OT Jorge Orta TOR
__ TO 655 OT Amos Otis KCR
__ TO 775 OT Dave Parker PIT
__ TO 385 OT Tony Perez PHI
__ TO 88 OT Rob Picciolo MIL
__ TO 514 OT Floyd Rayford STL
__ TO 43 OT Ron Reed PHI
__ TO 594 OT Gene Richards SDP
__ TO 164 OT Scott Sanderson MON
__ TO 740 OT Tom Seaver NYM
__ TO 772 OT Jim Slaton MIL
__ TO 89 OT Mike Smithson TEX
__ TO 286 OT Lary Sorensen CLE
__ TO 106 OT Tim Stoddard BAL
__ TO 768 OT Champ Summers SFG
__ TO 779 OT Jim Sundberg TEX
__ TO 515 OT Gorman Thomas CLE
__ TO 180 OT Manny Trillo MON
__ TO 601 OT John Tudor BOS
__ TO 642 OT Tom Underwood OAK
__ TO 766 OT Mike Vail MON
__ TO 67 OT Gary Ward MIN
__ TO 563 OT Glenn Wilson DET
__ TO 119 OT John Wockenfuss DET
__ TO 107 OT Ned Yost MIL

Sunday, February 20, 2011

1954 Ultimate Set

I am starting a little side project on this blog that I will run every Sunday applying the ultimate set concept to the 1954 sets. One of my favorite team collector blogs is The Phillies Room. Jim, who runs the site, has been reviewing every Topps set and the Phillies cards contained in them. He noted that the selection of Phillies in some of the years was lackluster as most of the good players seemed to be in the Bowman sets. Bowman was a Philadelphia based company, and my theory was that this had something to do with the lack of Phillies. So I am putting together an ultimate checklist for 1954. Maybe we can get an idea who and what teams were in what sets. Keep in mind that I own none of these cards, so I may have a few mistakes in some of the info in my checklist.

What sets are being used?
The Topps set will be the starting point and then players with Bowman cards only will be added. Regional sets will be used to round out the set. The Dan Dee set (noted as DD), a 29 card set given away in bags of chips is one of them. Since the company was based out of Cleveland, the majority of the players are Indians with a handful of Pirates and a few all-stars from other cities. Also being used is the Red Heart set (noted as RH), which was marketed with dog food. It was a 33-card set of all-stars, although the Cubs, White Sox, and Cardinals were represented more than other teams, so this may have been a regional issue. If you wanted a Stan Musial card in 1954, you had to get the Red Heart set. The third set that I am using is the Johnston Cookies set (noted as BJ). These were issued from 1953-1955 and contained only cards of the Milwaukee Braves.


Retired Players

There were a handful of retired players that appeared in these sets. These are players who would never appear in another game after 1954. They are listed below. One player that I am having some difficulty finding info about is Ben Johnson, who's only card is in the Johnston Cookies set. It appears that he may have never played a game in the major leagues. Angel Scull is another player that appears to have no major league career, but played on the independent Havana Sugar Kings in 1954. I will get to that team in a few minutes.

__ TO 57 RT Luis Aloma CHW
__ BO 171 RT Carlos Bernier PIT
__ TO 203 RT Harry Brecheen BAL
__ BO 215 RT Johnny Bucha DET
__ BJ 29 RT Paul Burris MLN
__ BO 126 RT Cliff Chambers STL
__ TO 228 RT Gene Hermanski PIT
__ BJ 12 RT Ben Johnson MLN
__ BO 151 RT Pat Mullin DET
__ TO 104 RT Mike Sandlock PHI
__ TO 204 RT Angel Scull WSH

Players in the Military
Here is an issue that I haven't had to deal with compiling sets from 1981 on. But 1954 was one year after the Korean War came to an end and military service was still a requirement. There were a handful of players who would have decent major league careers, but served in the military and didn't play a game in 1954. These include:

__ TO 221 MT Dick Brodowski BOS
__ TO 43 MT Dick Groat PIT
__ TO 13 MT Billy Martin NYY
__ TO 249 MT Vinegar Bend Mizell STL
__ BO 185 MT Daryl Spencer NYG

Players on New Teams
In the 1980s, players appear in traded sets, so a list is created of the cards of players on their old teams. There was no traded set in 1954, but due to the nature of both Bowman and Topps issuing their cards in series, a few players appear on a 1953 team in one set, and a 1954 team in another set.

A few exceptions I made here is for Saul Rogovin and Paul Smith. Rogovin played for the White Sox in 1953 and reappeared in the major leagues in 1955 with the Baltimore Orioles. Paul Smith played for the Pirates in 1953 and didn't reappear in the majors until 1957, again with the Pirates. Where did they both play in 1954? For the Havana Sugar Kings. The Havana Sugar Kings were an independent team based in Cuba in the International League in 1954. I am not sure what kind of relationship the Sugar Kings had with the major leagues that year, so I placed these two players on this checklist since they would reappear in the majors again.

__ BO 163 OT Dave Philley PHA
__ BO 140 OT Saul Rogovin CIN
__ TO 11 OT Paul Smith PIT
__ BO 109 OT Roy Smalley CHC

Monday, December 13, 2010

1983 - Players On New Teams

Explanantion
This is the list of players who switched teams during the offseason between 1982 and 1983 and are shown in the Topps set with their 1982 teams, but have a card in the 1983 Traded set with their new team. There are 66 cards I am putting in the checklist here, which includes Steve Garvey's last card as a Dodger, Tom Seaver's last card as a Red and a couple of Hall-of-Famers in Tony Perez and Joe Morgan playing a short time in uniforms other than the ones they are noted for.



Donruss Scores
In my opinion, one of the worst sets ever made, and maybe one of the reasons for the downfall of the fun of collecting baseball cards is the 1989 Score set. One of the things I really hate about that set besides the sheer boredom of it was the large number of players shown on teams they were traded away from before the end of the 1988 season and never played on in 1989.

In 1983 Donruss pulled this same stunt with three players, John Curtis, John Denny, and Jim Kern. All were shown with teams they didn't finish the 1982 season with. They are shown with the team they finished with, at least in bad air-brushing form, in the Topps set. I am putting all of the players in this checklist, but they do make appearances in at least one of the 1982 sets in the uniform of the team shown in the 1983 Donruss set.

__ TO 362 OT Bill Almon CHW
__ TO 435 OT Tony Armas OAK
__ TO 545 OT Floyd Bannister SEA
__ TO 105 OT Don Baylor CAL
__ TO 527 OT Larry Biittner CIN
__ TO 759 OT Doug Bird CHC
__ TO 213 OT Tom Burgmeier BOS
__ TO 15 OT Ron Cey LAD
__ TO 359 OT Dave Collins NYY
__ TO 372 OT Terry Crowley BAL
__ DO 170 OT John Curtis SDP
__ DO 237 OT John Denny CLE
__ DO 562 OT Carlos Diaz ATL
__ TO 289 OT Jerry Dybzinski CLE
__ TO 168 OT Juan Eichelberger SDP
__ TO 646 OT Jim Essian SEA
__ TO 764 OT Pete Falcone NYM
__ TO 583 OT Terry Forster LAD
__ DO 525 OT Julio Franco PHI
__ TO 719 OT Rich Gale SFG
__ TO 198 OT Kiko Garcia HOU
__ TO 610 OT Steve Garvey LAD
__ TO 724 OT Johnny Grubb TEX
__ TO 325 OT Von Hayes CLE
__ TO 538 OT Danny Heep HOU
__ TO 335 OT Steve Henderson CHC
__ TO 58 OT Al Holland SFG
__ TO 762 OT Cliff Johnson OAK
__ TO 260 OT Steve Kemp CHW
__ DO 355 OT Jim Kern CIN
__ TO 571 OT Mickey Klutts OAK
__ TO 117 OT Alan Knicely HOU
__ TO 331 OT Mike Krukow PHI
__ TO 523 OT Carney Lansford BOS
__ TO 156 OT Billy Martin OAK
__ TO 685 OT Lee Mazzilli NYY
__ TO 723 OT Randy Moffitt HOU
__ TO 603 OT Joe Morgan SFG
__ TO 203 OT Mike Morgan NYY
__ TO 42 OT Dale Murray TOR
__ TO 784 OT Jeff Newman OAK
__ TO 722 OT Jorge Orta LAD
__ TO 715 OT Tony Perez BOS
__ TO 593 OT Broderick Perkins SDP
__ TO 549 OT Charlie Puleo NYM
__ TO 264 OT Jamie Quirk KCR
__ TO 56 OT Chuck Rainey BOS
__ TO 236 OT Steve Renko CAL
__ TO 89 OT Leon Roberts TOR
__ TO 679 OT Mike Scott NYM
__ TO 580 OT Tom Seaver CIN
__ TO 112 OT Bob Shirley CIN
__ TO 567 OT Joe Simpson SEA
__ TO 753 OT Elias Sosa DET
__ TO 515 OT Gene Tenace STL
__ TO 787 OT Dick Tidrow CHC
__ TO 691 OT Dave Tobik DET
__ TO 743 OT Mike Torrez BOS
__ TO 461 OT Steve Trout CHW
__ TO 653 OT Ellis Valentine NYM
__ TO 496 OT Tom Veryzer NYM
__ TO 16 OT George Vukovich PHI
__ TO 429 OT Ed Whitson CLE
__ TO 688 OT Jim Wohlford SFG
__ OP 59 OT Al Woods OAK
__ TO 265 OT Joel Youngblood MON
__ TO 522 OT Pat Zachry NYM