Thursday, May 27, 2010

1982 Montreal Expos

My vote for MVP for this team goes not to the two hall-of-fame members on this roster (Gary Carter, Andre Dawson) or the other who should be in the hall-of-fame (Tim Raines), but veteran Al Oliver. He led the team in RBIs, batting average, and hits. And for those who like newer age stats, he led this team in OBP.

Cy Young
It comes down to Steve Rogers or relief ace Jeff Reardon. Steve Rogers had 19 wins and a 2.40 ERA while pitching more than twice as many innings as Reardon, so he gets the nod here.

Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics
I have to take a detour to rant for a second. According to this blog, Steve Rogers may be the 31st best pitcher of all time not in the Hall-of-Fame. He is ranked ahead of Jimmy Key, Mickey Lolich, Jack Morris, and Ron Guidry. This asinine argument is based on a stat called Wins Above Replacement (WAR), meaning that over a career they were worth a number of wins for the team compared to an average pitcher. Sorry, this is why I hate these new stats derived from everybody owning a home computer that has proliferated baseball writing in the last 20 years. Can you really make this argument with a straight face? For Rogers, not to take away from his career by comparing him to the above listed players, but this '82 season was his best, and he was decent in a few other seasons. Would you pick him ahead of the players I listed above in a ranking of all-time pitchers? Really?

Rookie Card of the Year
Future 5-time all-star third baseman Tim Wallach gets the nod here. He had his first card in the 1982 sets, even though this was his 3rd season in the major leagues.

Most Interesting Non-Topps card
Another Expo rookie card in 1982 belonged to future Red Sox manager Terry Francona. He was on the Expos multi-player prospect card, but has his own card in both the Donruss and Fleer sets.

On another note for another Donruss card in this set, Felipe Alou is shown as a coach for the Expos, which he actually was in 1981, but he actually managed the AA team in Wichita in 1982.

__ TO 730 C Gary Carter MON
__ TT 83 1B Al Oliver MON
__ TO 302 2B Doug Flynn NYM
__ TO 191 3B Tim Wallach MON
__ TO 198 SS Chris Speier MON
__ TO 70 LF Tim Raines MON
__ TO 540 CF Andre Dawson MON
__ TO 695 RF Warren Cromartie MON

Starting Pitchers
__ TO 605 SP Steve Rogers MON
__ TO 7 SP Scott Sanderson MON
__ TO 172 SP Bill Gullickson MON
__ TO 38 SP Charlie Lea MON

Relief Pitchers
__ TO 667 CL Jeff Reardon MON
__ TO 788 RP Woodie Fryman MON
__ TO 292 SP David Palmer MON

RP Bryn Smith
__ TO 227 RP Ray Burris MON

Other Players
__ DO 627 LF Terry Francona (or FL 188) MON

2B Mike Gates
__ TO 386 OF Jerry White MON

RF Joel Youngblood
__ TT 118 MI Frank Taveras MON
__ FL 196 3B Brad Mills MON

OF Dan Norman
__ FL 192 2B Wallace Johnson MON

MI Bryan Little
__ TT 7 C Tim Blackwell MON

OF Roy Johnson
__ TO 638 1B John Milner MON

2B Rodney Scott
__ TO 762 MI Mike Phillips MON
__ FL 420 PH Ken Phelps KCR

C Brad Gulden
__ TO 479 LF Rowland Office MON

PH Chris Smith

PH Mike Stenhouse
__ TT 104 RP Dan Schatzeder MON

SP Randy Lerch
__ TO 323 RP Bill Lee MON

RP Bob James

RP Tom Gorman

RP Dave Tomlin

__ DO 492 MG Jim Fanning MON
__ DO 650 MN Felipe Alou MON


  1. Great blog! I collect Yankee team sets as well so I'm hoping you'll do a Yankees blog one day. Keep up the great blog.


  2. I miss those old Expos uni's & caps.

    BTW, OBP isn't a "newer age stats". Some of the trivia on some of the back of those '82 Topps cards mention OBP. Also, if you get the chance to catch the 1975 All-Star game on the MLB Network sometime, note that when Joe Morgan comes up to bat one of the times, they show you on screen in old 70's font, what his OBP was during the first half of the season. It's just a myth that OBP was ignored until statheads in recent years. It was there. Plain as day.

  3. Mike,

    Thanks....I do these teams in order of how they finished for a given year, Fleer style. It has been a while since I put up a Yankee post because they went from World series runner up in 1981 to a team in the middle third of the standings in 1982. They will be coming up in about 5 more posts.

  4. I think the difference is, there wasn't importance placed on it until recently. It is what it is; a secondary stat that does say something about a player's performance. I know walks are nice, but I can think of many examples where a walk is quite useless during a game...example, 2-2 game, bottom of the ninth (or any inning), 2 outs, man on third. A walk in that case does absolutely nothing, you need a hit to get the run in. It may also actually bring up another hitter, who percentage wise, is less likely to get a hit.